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E10 - Transformer sa différence en FORCE: Le parcours de Luca «LazyLegz» Patuelli
Un cercle se forme, la musique démarre, et un b-boy entre en scène avec deux béquilles qui deviennent des instruments de style. Luca « LazyLegz » Patuelli nous emmène là où la créativité prend le pas sur la contrainte, où l’arthrogrypose ne ferme aucune porte, et où l’énergie du hip-hop fabrique des chemins là où il n’y en avait pas. On parle vérité, travail, communauté et de la joie brute qui naît quand un move tombe exactement sur le temps.
Nous revenons sur ses débuts, des couloirs d’hôpital aux cyphers de Montréal, puis sur la naissance d’Ill-Abilities, le crew international qui redéfinit la virtuosité en breakdance. Luca dévoile comment l’équipe est devenue un OSBL pour former, programmer et créer des événements accessibles, notamment les ateliers de danse adaptés et le rendez-vous No Excuses No Limits. Il partage des exemples concrets d’adaptation — du DJ qui mixe au menton à l’interprète en fauteuil qui tourne avec sa propre signature — pour illustrer un principe clé: on n’est pas forcément capable comme les autres, mais on est capable autrement.
Côté création, on explore Funky, son livre pour enfants inspiré par sa famille, qui met en scène un canard attachant apprenant à faire différemment. L’ouvrage ouvre un dialogue simple et puissant sur la différence, l’amitié et l’inventivité, avec une suite en préparation qui intègre des personnages aux handicaps visibles et invisibles. Luca parle aussi de science du mouvement, de géométrie des lignes, d’émotion scénique, et de l’évolution de son art vers plus de narration et de précision. Le fil rouge reste le même: aucune excuse, aucune limite, seulement des solutions et du style.
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It's Montreal breakdancer Luca Patoelli. He can't walk without his crutches, but as you can see, that hasn't stopped him from tearing it up. In fact, those signature moves have won him some of the world's biggest breakdancing competitions. But some of his proudest moments have been what he's done for others.
SPEAKER_01:I'm sitting sleeping home even up to the so lazy.
SPEAKER_03:I was born with a condition called arthroglyposis, and for me, it primarily affected me and my legs and my knees, and uh just the muscle development in my legs has been a lot slower, and so I was never able to grow muscle like an ordinary person. Whenever every time I try to visit the rehab center and just spend some time with the kids. When I was growing up and when I was in the hospital, it was extremely difficult. There were moments where it was extremely boring, and we would have a clown who would come in to distract us for 15 minutes. Those 15 minutes to me were priceless because that distracted me from what I was feeling in the hospital. Good afternoon, everyone! How are you guys doing? By the end of today, I'm gonna try to get all of you guys to dance with me. Does that sound good? Alright, nice. I was introduced to dancing when I was about 15 years old. Um, some of my friends had just been introduced to breaking, and they're like, Luca, I think you should try this out. And they took me to a competition and I fell in love with it, and I haven't stopped since the day that they've introduced me to it. So, to me, what this message means is that in life, anything can be possible as long as we don't create any excuses along the way. The minute we create an excuse and we say we can't do something without even trying, that's where we're creating a limitation. The way I break dance with my crutches is my my unique style. Um I've met some other dancers in my career that uh dance on crutches as well. However, because they have different uh movement with their legs, they can do some things that I can't do, and vice versa, I can do some things that they can't do. So each of our moves are extremely unique to ourselves. And that's a moment that has been in my life where my father and my mother have said our first is to not say, our first failure is not to try. And it's a really created in me, which is ingrained in me. In the live on my eche is to abandon. I would say my baby Luna, she has the same handicap that means. I would like to have a relationship with a person where it can be. The reality is that you're not capable of it like another person. But what we do appreciate is that it doesn't be like those, it's at toi. And we are capable of doing the children in another fashion. For example, I've had an audience who had the possibility to use his jambes, but he would have a DJ. He's enseignéing a few DJ with some menton. He is capable of pousser the fader from one côté to the other côté with some menton and utility to get a scratch.
SPEAKER_05:In the sense that if we can't do it, I'm Jocelyne Sema. We will talk of flow, of perseverance and the manner of transforming saw difference into her force. My invitation is a dancer of breakdance of renovation mondial. He's the founder of the equipe legendaire Ill Abilities. He has defied all the attempts with his biky to define a source of inspiration for a million people. And he is in our studio in direct of Montréal for parallel of his lives for enfants public TNT. It is of Funky, the canard who dancing. I am very honored to receive the dancer, the choreographer, the conference, the papa comblet, Luca Lazy Leg Patrick. I hope that I the note is correct. Luca, the story of Funky is an art fascinating. You can see the life at the case of you. On the version English, in the version franc. After plunging in the time of dark fest, I have a little question for you. Why is it passing the scene of breakdance to the life?
SPEAKER_03:In effect, I have two fillers. My grandfather Aura, and my brother Luna, it was 10 years that I listened a lives of life with my friends. And I sure have the time that I have with my people, but I realized that there are many personages that have differences. Therefore, there are lives that are languages or there are also different differences that you can see, but I don't know the difference physical. And the reason why I show a canard, if I have an animal, it's a canard. It does have a little bit of time. And I'm gonna touch a bit of two. In fact, this is a project that I did in my head. I will do that for my family. Especially my brother Luna, she has the same handicap that me. It's her. It's genetic. And in fact, I wanted to have a relationship with a person where they are in this person. And the year, in 2024, I was just fighting, I filmed my port, just after we had an interview to illustrator. And we had seven interviews, and we recently had a fan of France. She was in his life his earlier day. I really hear the vibe, what I have offered from options. And we created the lives Funky ensemble just in a zoom. And we have very, very, very. Eventually I would also explain a live adult that is inspired by my stories.
SPEAKER_05:Erica, what's funky?
SPEAKER_03:Funky, um it's my sense. For the people who know, my note of dancer is Lazy Legs. Lazy Legs is a joke on the moment for saying that I have two gentlemen parishes. But um I have a gentleman parishes, but I'm a food in the sense that I can see a little sense. But funky is a little personality like a person who is like fun and serious, but at the time he is who will just live the life at the max. And Funky in the living appeared Funky Foot. Alright, Lazy Legs, Funky Foot. Alright, it's a little bit like that. The story is really inspired by my life, I've had a changement in the sense that with Funky, you know he has just one pat that marks, and he has an hair on his brand that turns. In reality, for me, it's my two hands that work so much, and for me, it's also my eyes that are not very well. I would not say a representation exactly because I would say that when the people are funky, they see that there's a person who has a way of their car that function of the same thing. If it's exactly me, there are people who say, ah, I'm not like you. In this sense, so I would say the difference be over.
SPEAKER_05:Right. Those people identify.
SPEAKER_03:Exactly.
SPEAKER_05:Okay. And how is your people on the day?
SPEAKER_03:And I also eventually have a little tutor of funky.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, merchandising. Okay, okay, okay. That's nice.
SPEAKER_03:That's another business.
SPEAKER_05:And they don't participate at the version number two or no? Not really.
SPEAKER_03:In the sense that they don't have explained that, they don't know that. I will include a bit more plus. Because I wrote the text and I saw that to my people who mean. But now what I'm going to do for the second part, I want to integrate in the text. Um and for Funky and his among them, it's inspired by Ill Abilities. For example, the person that I will show exactly like the members of Ill Abilities, like Funky, but exactly like me. Um I'll show you personages who are two genres, in the sense that you have differences not just physical, but also intellectual.
SPEAKER_05:That's really nice. That's really nice. What we have, what we produce.
SPEAKER_03:We have ill Ability, it's an equipe international. Crew equipe. It's really an equipe of dancers of the world who have handicaps different. But chicken of these dancers individually has realized their own career after the crew. And these dancers have all these handicaps different. And my people, create a super crew, an equipe international all-star team in this sense. We are considered like certain dancers in the world. And when we get like the X-Men or the Avenger of the dance. And presently we have nine dancers who represent seven places different. I am the other Canadian. We have two dancers who are from America, two of Brazil, one who perfectly his jam in cancer, another who is done with malformation. We have a dancer who is from Chile who is done with a malformation in his two jambes. He is done with other malformations from his life. A dancer who went to France, who is a pollution on one of his jambes. Another dancer who is in France, but he was in Italy, who has a cancer also, who has his. He is present one of the most DJs in Korea of the Sud. It's really an equipe international. And if there's a competition of dance, we say okay guys, we will have this competition. And as a way to do a theatre, or a studio of dance who engaged during the time we are in another place, and we create a pet to cover the flavor for the change. And we were there because it was paid for our push. But I saw people who have been engaged in the past. I said, we are in California during this time. Also, it's a change that I feel like.
SPEAKER_05:Wow. Is there a site web or something if you want to say a little bit about it?
SPEAKER_03:It's Illability, so E-L-L-A-B-I-L-I-I-E-S. And also during 2023, we decided to transform the idea of ability in OSBL.
SPEAKER_06:Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_03:And we will develop the statutory charitable at the moment. And we will develop this OSB to get the program because we offer a formation for dancers sending handicap to appreciate how to enjoy the dance to people with handicaps different.
SPEAKER_01:That's nice.
SPEAKER_03:We have a ateliers of dance for people with handicaps different and we want to do that so great or for a very minimum for the community, especially here in Montreal but eventually along the world. After this OSBL we produce an event that's No Limits where we invited a dancers sort of handicap but dancing like we're after the scene, they turn around. If they turn on a photos, they use a footage roulant during their dance. And that's a lot that we produced during the semester of handicaps, the first semaine of June. It is inspired by the thing that Illability has been in the fact, but the point is to rejoin it in the community. Eventually, the guys in their proper people will be able to produce these events and do these ateliers of dance, because the message for excuse me is transformed by the world.
SPEAKER_05:Wow! It's very nice, it's very nice. Lucas, I have one question for you. We don't have to be obliged to respond, okay? Um the number of times we have to tell me not you're not capable, you don't dance, blah blah blah, oublie, etc. Alright, imagine who have a handicap, no importer the whole, and dance or make activities physical or something that their entourage does they're not capable. What is the consequence that you don't have to?
SPEAKER_03:We are capable. And the reality is that you don't have capable of it like the other person. But what we do is that it doesn't be like the other, it's that we are capable of doing the things in another fashion. For example, the DJ. He had the possibility to use his brand or his game, but he would have a DJ. We have enseigned the DJ with his menton. He was capable of pushing the fader from one code to another with his menton and use his eyes to get the scratch. In the sense that if we like a society, we have to be capable of breathing this line invisible to say that we're not capable because we are capable if we don't. We have just trying a solution. And it's sure that it's intimidating. And I can say there's a moments in my life where I was in a position that I realized that I was capable of it. And that there are a moment a little bit where our pride, those things come to rent on me. But what in these moments when I realized that I don't have that, I recul, I put your hand in a round, and I regard like the great speck of all. Because therefore we are in a situation where the things burn very well. After we are in a situation where we are in a group and we're the same person who is capable, and then we say. For me, if I put a course of dance and there's a movement physical that I'm not capable of, I regard what I do and say to make in my vocabulary of my dance. And then if you don't have a long time as the other, I do in my time. And it's time. And I would just say that we do have the compassion for you in this moment. Um, but we can't be so hard on ourselves too. Um I think when there are these hard moments, when we have these moments difficult, we really have to ask ourselves, we do demand if it's. And if we have a motion.
SPEAKER_05:Wow. That was powerful. Wow, okay. In your lives, uh you talked about the soutieness of parents.
SPEAKER_03:Who has been your great soutien, um I did that soon uh force in my member. My pair is um uh no shame. Wait, just put yourself out there.
SPEAKER_05:Yes, you need that.
SPEAKER_03:Wait, uh definitely he must have enseigned that. Um in the living actually, uh Funky says he is not capable and he realized that it's a moment clear in the living where he said I don't dance, I will jump from the others. And that it's a moment that actually has been in my life that my parents and my mother have said our first day. Our first failure is not to try. And it's a very um created in me and ingrained in me. In the living, I did not exactly like that. In the living échec is to abandon. Um, the reason why I changed that, it was actually the redactor who was this option because we wanted to be general to say that if a person says I'm saying, I would say that I didn't know. Um I would just say to not abandon. That's the way we have the solution to feel the same things that my parents did. But um, I don't know what parents were there for me, because I said the two have done a value, um, they have things as important that since I am.
SPEAKER_05:And also, 100%.
SPEAKER_03:Also, my grandfather Stefano is very fresh. We have a lot of adventures, there are things that we watch in the films, who have babies and things like that. I have that with my friends and my family. If they create a film on our life, we were the person in this sense. I have two of my friends who lived in my car in the same rural. We have the ports, people in my room, we went in our life. It was um a great show for my mature. Because I work with other chirurgies in my life. I want a lot of people, but with this group of amigs that I have, that m have really aid to start the moments of chirurgics.
SPEAKER_05:You have just one friend?
SPEAKER_03:Well, a friend.
SPEAKER_05:What happens the condition arthrogripose? I haven't heard you tell you.
SPEAKER_03:It's um it's a condition as rare. Um the drape of the dystrophy muscular. But it's a little bit more severe than the dystrophy muscular. But the reason why it happens in this echelon is because it's a condition neuromuscular. So it's a condition that affects the eyes, the articulations and the muscles of the corner. And for all who have the arthropose, it will affect who in the world. For certain people, it's in their round, in their brushes, their visages. You know, their uh speech affected and for me personally, my artipose is affected in my face, my jumps, and my eyes. Um for example, my family Luna has a large jumps, but for them it's affected in one. So there's one that has a muscle where they can take away sort of, and the protest or march with a bicycle, but just in the first two semaines, they can march the bikini, in a big distance, just in the cuisine, into the cuisine and the salon, it is able to do that, it's really cool to see.
SPEAKER_05:But when it is at the naissance or is that it develops after?
SPEAKER_03:It's a condition of naissance. Um there's not a lot of research. Alright, personally, I've been part of a group of research because you have what we say because it's sure that there were, but it was one generation after me, and after I am from the two generation of people who collect all these information. Um, the fact that it's a condition of articulation. Um we have a form of artery and our articulation. And one thing that it's bad that I'm doing that because I bought a little bit. In general, like the life, I know that, but I think with the repos it's amplified. Um that's a deep question. I mean, if you're politically, we'll know where the money will be, but um honnêtement I have as well for the future of the world will be a good future. Um for me physically, there's certain realities that I have a little bit because my car like it was 20 years. Alright, a lot of movements that I am capable of the same thing that they started again. Um it's a reality of my life, and I think I'm in that transition of that. Alright, we've happy, but I'm excited to know what the evolution of what my career will be capable of, um, the reason for why she's authority and the future for my family or my family and I think it's the same crap that all the parents have, you say. So it's like I'm capable of accomplishing with my people, and the rest we can control.
SPEAKER_05:It's an inquiet of all the parents, it's right. We just don't know the outside for he's capable of autonomous. But it's not like it's 100%.
SPEAKER_03:You understand, oh no, I just like that.
SPEAKER_05:Luca, what the breakdance? Why not salsa? Let's go.
SPEAKER_03:Um, so the breakdance, uh I was a skateboard. Oh, I was that on my genoux. And I had the skateboard on my genou, I had the skateboard where I had my hand, and I poussed with the meeting, I put the skateboard, I left my car, I was um, the 50-50, the board slide, wow and skateboard, after a chirurgic on my genoux, I was capable of skateboard on my genou. And I had me who was a skateboard, who commented to have a breakdown, it's each who made presentated. And I tried that there was a lot of parallels with the skateboard and the breakdance because it's uh it's street culture in this sense, it's the culture of the room. Um, individuality and the style. Um, breakdance. Style is everything, coming, coming, coming on. It's all a little bit, and I think that I've been attir by the culture hip-hop. And the beauty of the hip-hop is that all the people, no, the age, the race, the genre, the ability, everyone has this opportunity to do that culture. As long as you are proving yourself, the culture and the community will accept. And that was really special because the fact that I am different. The first time I rent in Cypher, the circle of dance, and I've had a movement that we had other people who do, the people have appreciated. They said, 'Yo, that's cool. You can make something out of that.' And I try that on returning to the question what we do to people who think they are capable of it, I think that the culture hip-hop enseigns this idea that we are all capable. If you make a lot of different and you know that you are enjoying that, the people along accepted for that. In this sense, the idea that the life is the energy. That's like we are enjoying this conversation, like you're sharing, I'm sharing, we're sharing energy, we have this energy. And after we are inspired by this conversation. And our idea also with the podcast is that the education. And I think that hip hop and the breakdance does that.
SPEAKER_06:Wow.
SPEAKER_03:And that's why the breakdance is compared to all the other dance. But what I would say is that I've developed a career where I'm a dancer professional, I want to appreciate it. The other skills of dance a little bit more.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, the what example?
SPEAKER_03:The dance contemporain. In the sense that the dance contemporain is a little emotional with one. And I try that the breakdown is also like that, but with the dance contemporary, you can do that at your time. In this sense. The rock and roll also. The soul. These things are just the shows that have been and created the hip-hop.
SPEAKER_05:Wow. I'm inspired today. Alright, Luca. Um the quatriam coverture we have two segments. Like funky. Funky where uh you have a show. Okay. And the joy in function of the invitation. So the pet that I prepared for you is the joy of Okay, what do you say in Angela? The flow rate, the to the flow.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_05:Okay. I'm gonna do a movement, an expression. Come on, you can manifest these moments and expressions in the breakdance, or is there a movement specific that for you in the breakdown apparent to the movement?
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_05:I'm not sure I'm clear. It's not even clear for me, but anyways. Okay. So first word, frustration.
SPEAKER_03:Alright, the emotions of break, it's the dance. So the frustration is when you are in trying to get a movement, and it starts the thing that mentally you think. Alright, for example, on tour souvent, no man. It's like a 1990. Alright, uh you don't stick it and that's the frustration.
SPEAKER_05:Alright. What about confidence?
SPEAKER_03:Confidence is when you hit a move on the music, and it was a moment that it was like yo, I got this, and after you live, you're like, Oh shit, I got this!
SPEAKER_02:Yes!
SPEAKER_03:And you saw it like okay, she's pretty for too.
SPEAKER_02:Love.
SPEAKER_03:Love. So uh describe that in other things. Because it's a love for the culture and the person along and your crew, or for uh your partner or something.
SPEAKER_05:Oh your daughters, I mean, and my daughters too.
SPEAKER_03:It's sure that the dance for me has done the confiance to show my family in this sense. So I don't know that the dance has done the confiance on me to care on me and use my difference. Okay, my bikes are not my limitations, it's a part of me. And because of that, I've got the confiance to talk to my family. So that's that's where I would go with love on that end of things. That's cute.
SPEAKER_05:How long have you been married?
SPEAKER_03:Um it's been since 2013, 12 years. Wow. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Wow. Is there a movement precisely or a choreography that your flesh appreciates the plus?
SPEAKER_03:At this moment, my fellow are the type of person that if you say what, they won't feel they won't arrest for no, that march like that. And each they will see the movement and uh they won't say no, that's a dance. So we don't interag with their dance and their faith to explain.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, last word, silence. Science.
SPEAKER_03:Um I mean in dance there's a lot of different elements to science because uh in terms of the physicality of the shows, we have to see uh what we want. Oh me too.
SPEAKER_05:I'm trying to address it.
SPEAKER_03:So that's a science element. There's another science element is the shapes. You see, so that's more geometry math and this. So when we have movements, that's not just the breakdance, but also when we talk about ballet, we have a line. You see, that's geometric. And with the break, like the pose and pass, to be clean in this sense, you have a triangle like that, boom, boom, boom. So that's what you can bring in the science.
SPEAKER_05:Luca, is there a chance already that we have party and that you would say, um I mean you are not capable, you know, we are capable in this sense.
SPEAKER_03:We have just a talent. And uh next to that, and that will put a little bit more time for certain people than others, but don't lose hope on those sense of things. Never Amen. So second uh the turn two, this is a creature on a time for the response. Alright, if you have people uh calc that you have and encourage, say okay to the subvention, if you like. Um normally uh I think that it starts for print 2026. Okay. Um for autumn 2026, I'll have the tour of the two lives. So I've had my first tour earlier, um, it was really cool. It was an apprentice also because it's it's a whole different world, the salon of life, the tournous, lectures. I'm in the world, but not for learning the lives, but just for activities of dance. So it was a vibe completely different. I've really heard this experience, it was cool. Um and I will continue to approach, I would say. And this tour, I want other authors who are inspiring also. So I really want to continue just to learn and build off of that. So yeah, funky and friends is coming soon.
SPEAKER_05:So the live presentation we can do on the edition TNT. Is it on Amazon?
SPEAKER_03:Um, not on Amazon. We are in because there's Amazon, I don't know the technicality, but the code, uh the barcode.
SPEAKER_05:The ISBN, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:With the ISBN, we have to find it after impriming, we have to make the ISBN with Amazon and the imprimers at the same time. The fact that we have the imprimation. Anyways, present they are on Amazon, eventually okay. Um, it's also displayable on library.ca. Okay. Um I think if you live in Rena and Indigo and also the other library local, if you don't have, you will demand, but they are obliged to command. Oh, that's nice. I think that if you encourage it, then go to your biblioth and demand that it's a fancy in this sense.
SPEAKER_05:That's nice. He is TSA, he is autist, and he has also confiance in me. I think like you said, the handicap. And for the people who don't have a handicap, for all the people, there's a moment in the life where we say we are capable. So I think that I will learn that. I think he's adorable.
SPEAKER_03:Thank you.
SPEAKER_05:Thank you, Lucas. Frankly, I adored this interview, I admire your energy, and I admire how you are positive. I suppose that's the other thing that you wanted to arrive in the life. But it arrived, but after that, I know that you got the chair, and I'm sure that you communicate all that force, all this energy.
SPEAKER_03:I think that the things are for a reason, and I think that it will put my relief, and it will amplify the message very fast than me.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, that's cool. That's nice. Thank you, Gazette.
SPEAKER_03:Thank you, and everyone.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, we have parallel of illities, but if you want to know, what's what your actual is?
SPEAKER_03:It's lazylegs.com, and legs with an Z at the end, not an S. So L-A-Z-Y-L-E-G-Z.com and Instagram, bboy LazyLegs, Facebook, B Boy LazyLegs also. And um if you look at the sites pasexcusespallimites.com, no excusesnolimits.com, that's the information on all those events that we offer at Montreal. Because we offer courses adapted at the Academy of Dance Montreal. That's cool. Um, so it's for the jeans. We have format all the projects in this studio. Uh there are courses adapted. Um eventually our view of OSBL is to be able to offer in other studios of dance. So these courses are offered by Montréal and Quebec eventually.
SPEAKER_05:Perfect.
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